‘Big Little Lies’ Season 2 Episode 5: The Monterey Five May Have To Testify In Celeste Wright’s Custody Case

Big Little Lies Season 2 Episode 5 showed Ed and Madeline Mackenzie going to a class to work on their relationship. While actual the class did little to nothing, it ended up sparking the first real conversation between the two about their problems on the drive home. Bonnie Carlson’s mom is somewhat talking, and as Bonnie cares for her, dark memories of her childhood with her mother come up. She confronts her father for not protecting her, but the audience still doesn’t know exactly what she went through with her mother. Finally, Celeste Wright and her mother-in-law begin the custody case proceedings. Will the Monterey Five have to testify in her case? Keep reading to find out!

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In ‘Big Little Lies’ Episode 5, Celeste Wright and Mary-Louise face off for guardianship

After being served with guardianship papers, Celeste and Mary-Louise both attained lawyers to fight for custody. At their first hearing with the judge, she said everyone involved must talk to a court-appointed psychologist, and she will determine if the children are in danger. When Mary-Louise made a statement to the judge about being concerned for Celeste’s health, Celeste began to question her lawyer. She went to Renata Klein and asked if she should proceed with her current lawyer or hire another.

Dude…I want someone to kill Mary Louise this season. That's how good Meryl Streep is. She is making me LOATHE her character and come up with new ideas on how to off her every week. #BigLittleLies

— Susanna (@Sujo113) July 8, 2019

However, Celeste didn’t receive much advice because her assistant interrupted and informed Renata that Women In Power would no longer feature her because of the bankruptcy scandal.

A few days later, Mary-Louise’s attorney offered a deal to Celeste, which included joint custody while she seeks treatment and receives anger management. Celeste straight up denied the offer, while her attorney thought it was a good deal, and better than going to trial. Her lawyer informed her that when the two face off in litigation, the death of her husband will be brought up.

The Wright twins and Ziggy Chapman get into a fight at school in ‘Big Little Lies’ Episode 5

While Ziggy is at school, playing on the playground by himself, a bigger kid walks over and begins taunting the boy. He called Ziggy a mistake before the Wright twins came over and told the older kid to leave their brother alone. The kid then said the boys’ father is a rapist, and all three boys beat the kid up, resulting in a suspension. Jane talked to Ziggy about his actions and asked what the kid said to provoke the fight.

Ziggy and his brothers. #BigLittleLies pic.twitter.com/XsRP5jCCtu

— mrrr (@idontknowfrero) July 8, 2019

At first, he lied and said he forgot what the boy said, until eventually telling his mother the word the kid called his father. Ziggy also told his mom that he likes Corey, but is afraid he’ll grow up and be like his father.

Celeste also talked to her boys about the situation and then explained to them about the custody case she is currently going through. The twins initially get scared after realizing they could have to live with Mary Louise, but Celeste promised the boys they would stay with her. Her sons also promised her they would protect her.

In ‘Big Little Lies’ Episode 5, Celeste Wright calls a Monterey Five meeting

Celeste texted all five women and had them meet at night on the beach. She explained the custody situation she’s going through, and how her late husband, Perry, would get brought up in the trial. Because the case revolves around Perry’s death, and how Celeste is dealing with it, she will have to answer questions about her late husband’s sudden passing, under oath. Renata backed up Celeste and said they would be called as character witnesses, to verify Celeste is telling the truth.

Mary Louise, her lawyer, and the police teaming up to get the Monterey five under oath so they can find out the truth about Perry’s death. #BigLittleLies pic.twitter.com/VYa55P4oke

— Laige Pindsey (@iironicaa) July 8, 2019

When Madeline suggested they stick to their original story, Celeste reminded her that they would commit perjury if they lied on the stand. Therefore, Celeste says everyone had to get their story straight and stable for when her trial comes. At the end of the episode, a drained Bonnie drove to the police station, and seemingly headed for the door.